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Life? Death? Eternal Unrest.
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on 2006-06-19 09:19:14 |
What does lie within us? I've been doing a bit of searching within my own being. For one, I, along with countless others know that we as humans are imperfect. So Religiously speaking, even in death we cannot reach perfection. So Here's my question. Is there really a definite way to reach the Eternal Being? Not that I've heard so far but all we recieved from books of teachings is only promises. As a god, it cannot interfere with the actions of their creations. For that if they do, for any reason, would make them not gods, but lesser demons. So to speak. But logically speaking, We do not know what lies after death but decomposition and a cycle of life. Now. For the logical people, I've a question for you. Where did the theory of a life after life come from? Why are we so interested in such thoughts? If there is a thing called child philosophy, wouldn't this, a life after life, be considered a "child Philosophy"? Well...I was just wondering is all. ^^  |
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| People are interested in living on after the inevitable happens because we don't know anything about it. Kinda like happiness and saddness, your brain has to experience both to tell the difference. If all we have ever done is existed then we don't know how not to exist. I guess in some people that means that even after our body keels over that somehow they believe the individual is saved. Just a survival instinct your brain kicks in to help it stop thinking about dieing. Life's for living, ponder about death when they pump you full of preservatives. |
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| Regarding the life after death theory, i only know if it comes from religions... So, we'll never know except we have experienced death. And your question about becoming an eternal being, if humans know how to do that already maybe the word "god" wouldn't exist nowadays... |
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on 2006-06-19 09:54:09 |
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True to what you say, but I never said humans becoming gods. A god himself being a "god" would not interfere with human activity, else he is deemed a lesser demon trying to fix an unfixable. |
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on 2006-06-19 11:58:28 |
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Religion is how you control people, faith is what keeps us going. Wolfs right, the brain needs both the good and bad to distinguish between them both. (thanks for that you saved me two paragraphs of explaining that principle) As far as the whole idea of being saved goes, it's part of religion not faith(see above). Religion states what you must do in this life to be born in a better place in the next. Hinduism, for example, uses caste systems that say where you are born is dictated by what you have done in your past life. Think about it for second though, all the rich people are born into wealth because they were good in their pat lives, and the bad: bad. If you were a rich noble what would you do to insure that those without wealth do not cause social unrest, you tell that if they are good now then in the forever future they will live better. This is the basis of the entire time the Catholic church has existed. The middle ages are especially a prime example. The literacy rate during the middle/dark ages was >1% ask them what 2+2 is and they can't answer, but ask them a question about their religion and they can answer it instantly. Why? because that's all they were taught. They worked every day, except for Sunday when they all went to mass. In essence they were the perfect society for the nobles; to stupid to think so they worked, and to religious to do crime. All the nobles had to do was sit and watch. The peasants would go to work in the morning, come home at night, increase the population slightly, wouldn't learn anything, wouldn't think deeply, and they wouldn't try to kill each other/revolt. Don't believe me, look at the slave trade, they kept slaves illiterate for a reason. If you can read, you can learn, and if you can learn you can plan, and if you can plan, you don't need to work on a sugar-cane plantation anymore. Faith, on the other hand, is a common idea. Your interpretation of it may be different but everyone has it. From atheists to devout Muslims, they all have faith in what they believe. Why is this? This question harkens to a quote I read not too long ago: "god did not create man, man created god." Life is finite, and we see death everyday. We fear things we do not understand, and we do not understand death. We, as humans, create faith in a belief that we feel comfortable about dieing. Whether it is 41 virgins, or nothing at all, we all come to our own ideas of what things will be like when we die. It's the security blanket we all snuggle up to at night, our own little comfort zone. We're fine as long as someone doesn't have a better blanket. That's why religious wars start, people see other religions as a threat to their comfort zone. If you hand a nice fleece blanket, but someone else hand a seeming better one, many people would instinctively envy that other person. This is a classic "the grass is greener" scenario. Even if we have to pay a troll under the bridge we will always try to get to the other side. |
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on 2006-06-20 09:54:30 |
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Wonderful replies. I must say that. But I must correct you. Relgion may contrtol people, but that also separates people. while religion saparates, what truly unifies? God? Buddha? Allah? Nothing but separatism lies within religion do you not agree? |
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Hmmm...I think that as long as people put faith into anything in the name of fear (ie. fear of pain and emptiness) they will continue to separate those who seem to represent anything different as to what they put faith into. As for unification, I believe that hope itself is what truly unifies (damn that sounds cliche) because all creatures wish to have hope in their lives because, in a way, it gives them meaning and value in an otherwise empty concept.
You need a reason to be sad. You don't need a reason to be happy. The secret to happiness is to face the fact that the world is horrible.
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In religion lies separatism because in many case, religion tends to become just another form of politics... So even in religion, people tend to separate themselves from those with different beliefs and look down on them, and that is wrong. I call people like that "trash" :D I believe most religions teach to be tolerant at everyone including those with different religions. If separation happens between people with different religions, that's human's fault, not the religion. |