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Japanese Education...
Link | by czetsuya on 2006-06-22 17:05:43
Our country follows the traditional US style of education while watching anime i was confused to what was senior, then junior high and so on, could some jap people kindly explain there education system from pre-schoolers... thank you just curious :-)

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Re: Japanese Education...
Link | by elitefemale on 2006-06-23 20:20:02 (edited 2006-06-23 20:20:36)
the system is kinda similar to US

source from wikipedia.org

* Elementary school (小学校 shōgakkō, lit. small school): 6 years, 6-12 years old
* Middle school (中学校 chūgakkō, lit. middle school): 3 years, 12-15 years old
* High school (高等学校 kōtōgakkō or 高校 kōkō, lit. High school): 3 years, 15-18 years old

Re: Japanese Education...
Link | by xDarkAce on 2006-06-23 20:46:10
Elementary school is also refered to as Grammer school, and Middle School is also refered to as Junior High here in the US (Well at least here in So Cal)

Re: Japanese Education...
Link | by Yora on 2006-06-24 00:03:30
It's been forever since reading "learning to bow" but I know it mentions the this subject. I'm fairly sure all students attend school together until after middle school, and then they go to high schools based on their interest (e.g. a school where people who'd most likely be farmers go). Nobody quote me on this. I'm not sure if im right, I need to re-read the book :). It's sortof a memoir of a guys year of being an assistant teacher in a tokyo suburb

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Re: Japanese Education...
Link | by wisteria 「藤」 on 2006-06-24 18:46:34
Kids have the option of choosing not to go to school after middle school, but up until then, it's mandatory. Uniforms also normally start to be worn in middle school for public schools.

I still don't understand the literal time schedules of high schools, daily schedules, or how they can ditch or not go to school.. because when I was out in the cities, you see uniformed teens out at every single time of the day or night... so like.. do they EVER go to school? Or are there a lot of ditchers?

Re: Japanese Education...
Link | by czetsuya on 2006-06-26 00:19:17
thanks a lot guys :-). But are japanese class ditchers??? hehehe i wonder...

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Re: Japanese Education...
Link | by Shamisen Master on 2006-08-07 03:31:52
Well ok so the Japanese like westerners?
That is unless the Jap your thinking of is a right winger. In which case you might get spit on, egged, maybe even shot.
Have fun.

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Re: Japanese Education...
Link | by Shamisen Master on 2006-08-07 03:35:11
But aside from weekly right wing racism it might not be so bad.
Maybe you can spend time at the Japanese McDonalds (if you don't mind the fact you can't special order your food.)
I guess the only things I really liked was the music, the shows (cartoon and other stuff), and military testing.
I got to see some guys fire artilery at Fuji-san.

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Re: Japanese Education...
Link | by Urahara Kisuke on 2006-08-07 03:43:02
i've skiped school before, it was quiet awhile ago tough.... my senpai asked me if i wanted to go to den den town , to buy some movies and watch it at his house , and....ofcourse i said yes ,hahahha , the funny thing was that , no one found out , not even my parents , the school didn't even care to phone my home , that was my first time i ditched....maybe i'll do it again sometime...hhahahaha ( btw , the movie we watched , were "trainboy" and some stupid episode of slam Dunk , on t.v )

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Re: Japanese Education...
Link | by yeozhol on 2006-11-21 09:04:19 (edited 2006-11-21 09:04:40)
its sounds pretty ralaxed compared to singapore.if you missed school,the next day you'll be ask why you werent in school and stuff.you cant just say you're sick and thats it,you'll need a medical certificate.

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Re: Japanese Education...
Link | by Eiko on 2006-11-21 17:47:00
Getting into high school in Japan is closer to getting into college in the US. You need to take an entrance exam. HS is optional.

Re: Japanese Education...
Link | by on 2006-12-09 12:36:56
just to let you all know. Japanese education far surpases US standards. Most high level math is taught nearly at 9th grade level. O__O not to mention when we, the english speakers learn japanese, we don't even compare to preschoolers. TT__TT Now I make myself feel bad...gotta go to the depression thread...TT__TT


Re: Japanese Education...
Link | by on 2006-12-09 18:40:29
well probably because preschoolers are surrounded by japanese, maybe?

well i might be a little stupid then when i go to japan as an exchange studen....oh well. theres always cram school

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Re: Japanese Education...
Link | by EmptyMind on 2006-12-09 22:38:20
Most of the High Schools are private in Japan, aren't they?

I have heard from Japanese transfer students that college in the US is much tougher than in Japan, even at the top universities. I guess all the students get burnt out by then.

>,>; Did I just say that...?

Re: Japanese Education...
Link | by on 2006-12-10 10:46:44
not all schools in Japan is private. they have public school and commercial schools(those who dont want to or cant go to college). well thats why the Japanese are smart i guess.

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Re: Japanese Education...
Link | by Eiko on 2006-12-10 14:46:13
Yes, education is better. I had a friend in high school who was a Japanese exchange student. When the year was over, he had to go back to Japan to RETAKE the grade in order to graduate because US schooling isn't up to snuff.

by the time you get to the college level in Japan, classes tend to be easier than they were in high school. But that is not true for all Japanese colleges, even the "top" ones. Some of them have the same kind of reputation as Harvard, Yale and MIT or Oxford in the UK.

Re: Japanese Education...
Link | by rematche on 2006-12-15 08:39:44 (edited 2006-12-15 08:40:31)
comparing it to philippines...japan is better. in there, "we punish the children with education."


Re: Japanese Education...
Link | by pilps on 2006-12-19 16:41:41
^ i dont get the "we punish the children with education"
anyway, im freaked out now. i'll be studying there by 2008 and woah, that tough?!, scary!! T^T

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Re: Japanese Education...
Link | by o0anime_freak0o on 2006-12-19 16:57:49
So your're saying Japan's education is harder than the US by one grade? I wonder how it's education like compared to Singapore.... hmm...


Re: Japanese Education...
Link | by MiCHiYo μ on 2006-12-19 18:36:11
here we go...

it's out of an about.com website. i get to email the author (namiko abe)...

anyhow... here you go:


The Japanese Education System


School System

The Japanese educational system was reformed after World War II. The old 6-5-3-3 system was changed to a 6-3-3-4 system (6 years of elementary school, 3 years of junior high school, 3 years of senior high school and 4 years of University) with reference to the American system. Gimukyoiku (compulsory education) time period is 9 years, 6 in shogakko (elementary school) and 3 in chugakko (junior high school).

Japan has one of the world's best-educated populations, with 100% enrollment in compulsory grades and zero illiteracy. While not compulsory, high school (koko) enrollment is over 96% nationwide and nearly 100% in the cities. High school drop out rate is about 2% and has been increasing. At the University (daigaku) level, there are 98 national universities, 53 other public universities and 425 private universities. About 46% of all high school graduates go on to university or junior college.

The Ministry of Education closely supervises curriculum and textbooks, and classes with much the same content are taught throughout the country. As a result, a high standard of education becomes possible.

Student Life

Most schools operate on a three-term system with the new year starting in April. The modern educational system started in 1872 modeled after the French school system which began in April. The fiscal year in Japan also begins in April and ends in March of the following year, it is more convenient in many aspects. April is the height of spring when cherry blossom (the most loved flower of the Japanese!) bloom and a most suitable time for a new start in Japan. This difference in the school-year system causes some inconvenience to students who wish to study abroad in the U.S. A half year is wasted waiting to get in and often another year is wasted when coming back to the Japanese university because of having to repeat a year.

Except for the lower grades of elementary school, it is usual to average 6 hours of school a day on weekdays, one of the longest school days in the world. Even after school lets out, the children have drills and other homework to keep them busy. Vacations are 6 weeks in the summer and about 2 weeks each for winter and spring breaks. There is often homework over these vacations.

Every class has its own fixed classroom where its students take all the courses, except for practical trainings and laboratory works. During elementary education, in most cases, one teacher teaches all the subjects in each class. Because of the rapid population growth after World War II, the numbers of students in a typical elementary and junior high schools once exceeded 50, but now it is kept under 40. At public elementary and junior high school, school lunch (kyushoku) is provided on a standardized menu, and it is eaten in the same classroom. Nearly all junior high schools require their students to wear the school uniforms (seifuku).

A great difference between Japanese school system and American School system is, the American respects independence and the Japanese control individual responsibility by observing the group rules. This explains the Japanese characteristic of group behavior.

Japanese University

Japanese universities are usually 4 years, though medical and dental schools are 6 years and junior colleges are 2 years. After World War II, the present system was adopted with the first 2 years focused on liberal studies and the major subjects concentrated in the last 2 years.

What most distinguishes Japanese universities from the foreign universities is the difficulty of their entrance examination. At one time, there was a saying "Yontou-goraku (four-pass, five-fail)" are used widely. It is a warning that anyone getting more than five hours of sleep a night will fail the university entrance examinations. Today, the entrance exam process for the national universities has two parts: a standard exam given by the National Center for University Entrance examinations, which everyone takes on the same day, and the university-specific exam administered by each school. The competition to get into the elite universities is very hard and admission to medical school is especially prized.

In spite of the infamous juken jigoku (examination hell), most Japanese universities are said to be hard to enter but quite easy to graduate from. Of course, there are many Japanese university where the students are required to study hard before they can be granted a diploma, but a great number of university students seem to be laid-back. In contrast to high international regard for Japanese elementary and secondary education, Japanese university education has no obtained high marks.

Cram Schools

Japan is probably the country with the largest number of preparatory schools in the world. Although in some countries including France and England, entrance or qualifying examinations for advanced schools is very difficult, no other countries have juku (cram schools). There was a time in Japan, when people relied on private tutors, but private tutors could not cope with the intensifying entrance examination competition.

Japan even has them for entering prestigious private kindergartens. Some Japanese parents are eager to send their children to such kindergartens, which are also associated with prestigious university, and in most cases guarantee that the students can go on all the way to university.

Many students, ranging from elementary school students to those who fail and make a second (or more) try to enter university, go to juku to prepare themselves to successfully pass entrance examinations. These exams weed out applicants by a rote-learning type of written test and special training is required. The standard education received at school alone is not enough to survive examination war and juku makes the difference. It is not unusual to see children going to juku 2-3 hours a day after school, 3-4 days a week.

A fiscal 1993 Ministry of education study found 24% of elementary school children, 50% of junior high school students and 60% of high school students are going to juku. Japanese society emphasizes on the academic career. The diploma from first-rated universities is one of the important requirements to get quickly promoted in a job, which is behind this entire obsession.


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