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Tips for Kanji anyone?
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Learning Japanese right now, trying to get to my roots and all, and I really want to pass my JPE. Curious to know if anyone has some tips on learning Kanji, I really am ok at recognition, but stroke order and coming up with the symbols on my own is a little tough. Help me please, onegaishimasu!!! |
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by レン | Ren
on 2006-08-01 03:04:03
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XD JPE...lolz Hmmmmmmm you have a relax wrist everytime you wanna do Kanji? I mean Kanji is a LITTLE tough when your trying to do it..when your tense.. |
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| You can only rely to your memory when it comes to stroke orders... And you need need to practise to write the kanjis a lot so that you can memorize the form of the kanji by movement... It's like drawing to me... |
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The best way is to take a Kanji class and to practice as much as you can.    |
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| For the stroke orders, it's basically always left to right and top to bottom. Well... it's usually like that. |
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on 2006-08-04 06:35:24 (edited 2006-08-04 06:36:42)
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I wouldn't worry about stroke order all that much unless it makes your kanji look all weird. It's just like how (when?) people choose to cross their T's and dot their I's; we all have our way of writing, and when it comes down to it, as long as the kanji is clear, it isn't all too critical to follow the exact stroke order. Heck, some of my classmates 'corrected' my teacher (who is native Japanese) for having the wrong stroke order. :P But yes! Left to right, top to bottom is the usual order. :) Edit: And another tip; if you're into mnemonics, there are books out there to help you memorize Kanji much better. It also makes for an interesting look at Kanji. :o |
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The way i learn my kanji is first by recognizing it, and what it could mean by breaking down the strokes. Then i practice writing the strokes multiple times, just like students do at school, and then introduce it into your sentances inplace of words you already know. |
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by hikari_sora
on 2006-08-08 09:24:37
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Most Kanji strokes were like the Chinese strokes. For me learning the Kanji is the same as learning the Chinese strokes(not the simple one though)
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on 2006-08-08 17:39:21 |
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I already knew all of them!! v(^O^)v anyway to learn Kanji you have to start from basic and write more!  |
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on 2006-08-09 04:38:35 |
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Another tip from me: As you improve your Kanji skills you'll find it easier to learn more 'difficult' Kanji. Eh, well, at least that was the case with me. :s Repitition and practice is key, just like when writing in cursive. |
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| Stroke order there is no real easy way of memorizing it, you just got to write it out as long as it takes until you can do it without thinking, kinda like how you tackle hiragana at first. Practice, kunren, and some renshuu! For me my kanji rarely look exactly like they do in the book cause well like with any other language everyone has their own handwriting. Only time I drive myself insane with perfection is when I'm doing calligraphy and it HAS to look perfect. |
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by calamity58
on 2006-08-13 23:01:08
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hmm..Kanji Skills? hmm...ill really learned at all xD anyway to learn Kanji you have to start from basic to last xD  |
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Kanji's are easy.... Well not when you are memorizing them though ><; I have learned only about 330 Kanji, Stroke order are easy it's just comes nartureally, as long as it looks right.. But I suggest you to not copy the kanji down from the cursive text though, if you do, it looks weird. Here's a tip for you to memories Kanji easier.. I play Karuta, so kanji is easy. Karuta is a memorizing card game.. You memorize the word in japanese or english.. and when the word is called, you have to get the Kanji card before your opponent does. It's alwasy a good work out for your brains.. Another way for writing Kanji is try writing them in your sentence more often.. The more you use them in your sentence pattern the more you are accustom to using that kanji. I hope this helps. |
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^^ Ooh. So Karuta it's called. I've seen it once on NHK and thought it was interesting. As for memorizing the meanings of kanji, try to download a flash card program for kanji and try to memorize kanji around 10 at a time. I found it really helpful when I was studying Japanese.
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hey there...;-) I struggled through my kanji quizes and tests in college, but the only way to improve your aknji skills is practice,practice,practice,practice,practice,practice,practice.....It is really important to do that 'cause if you dont you lose them instantly!! (I had that happen before a quiz...*sigh*) Well, also my prof. tried us to imagine the kanji as a picture to remember the way it looks for example the kanji yasumi (rest) (look it up, so you know what i am talking about ;-) ) consists of 2 kanji one looks like a person and the other like a tree (similar to hon (book)) and how you can remember that kanji's meaning and the way to write it is: that a person is under a tree...the person is RESTING under the tree...^.^....I used to do that for almost all the kanjis I have learned...it helps you a great deal to remember this!! ;-) Or another example would be the kanji for brother...the kanji looks like a square with legs underneath...the square is a kanji by itself and means kuchi (mouth)...so I remembered that kanji as follows: My brother is a big mouth with two legs...lol...that literally what my prof. said...lol...well, anyway, i think you got my point...;-) hope it helps!! ;-) Also my prof. always emphazised the stroke order! She said it is important to know the right way to write it, cause japanese can see if you wrote it differently....dont ask me how but my prof. was able to tell...amazing isn't it? good luck and have fun learning kanji!! ;-) |
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well kanji are pictograms. Each symbol is representative of the object or concept it depicts. So, even if you don't quite remember the various pronunciations, you can see the meaning of the kanji in many cases. Other easy examples to follow neko's are the kanji for tooth (it looks like a molar seen from above) æ¯ã€€A tree looks like a tree 木, east is the sun through the tree　æ±. Most kanji only have 2 pronunciations, though there are small number that have many pronunciations, but in practice, as opposed to schooling, (such as in a newspaper or book or manga) some kanji will have "helper" hiragana or katakana next to them to help you read them properly. |
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I think its important to know that the more complicated kanji are made of much more simple parts, (some of these parts are basic kanji). Each of these basic parts have a meaning, and if you learn those, you can make up "stories" to help you remember how they go together into making complex kanji. Mnemomics in other words. There are only a few 100 of these parts, called radicals, and they arent too hard to remember, compared to around 3000 kanji that you need to know to be at the level of an average Japanese person. There is a system in a book called Remembering The Kanji by James Heisig which takes you through the process of identifying the radicals (and other parts that are not radicals but are also useful) and then learning the method of making stories out of them for each kanji. The book gives you a single basic meaning for each kanji to make up a story about and gives you stories to begin with, then you have to make up your own. It's basically a mnemonic system. Ive memorized 1000 kanji in the last 6 months, using this, and I was being lazy. Its possible to memorize the 1,945 everyday use kanji in 3-6 months, depending on how much time you have. As someone else said, its important to review them too, otherwise you forget. There is a good site to help you do that called kanji.koohii.com, but you must have the Heisig book first, otherwise you wont have a clue what is going on there. Some people criticise this method, but I really dont care. I tried the traditional way and got nowhere, I believe the Heisig system is the only one that could have got me this far in so little time.  |