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| I am a bit confused here, should i buy xbox 360? Cause actually i already got ps3, is it worthed? And what games that only published in xbox 360 not ps3? I want to know some suggestion, thanks guys |
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on 2009-05-25 01:56:12 |
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maybe for now you should wait let is in the long run PS3 owned Xbox already... eternal sonata has been port to ps3 tales of vesperia has been port to ps3 DMC4 has been port to PS3 anyway what game are you particularly play?? 
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| All games i almost play are RPG, Action/Adventure, and some strategy and i've been wondering is it Star Ocean 4: The Last Hope will be in ps3? |
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on 2009-05-25 05:30:58 |
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ahhh so you seek star ocean 4. there no rumor about it right now but don't know what will happen I have Xbox 360 but seeing that tales of vesperia and eternal sonata had been port to PS3 made me a bit frustrate... they got new scenario (eternal sonata) and char(tales of vesperia) but at least last remnant,lost odyssey, infinite undiscovery is still in xbox 360 just hope that FFXIII will be in here too and add kingdom heart then I have no regret buying this console but if you look on the sale in japan, Xbox360 are declining... so right now I've been thinking about buying ps3 too ^^
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on 2009-05-25 09:31:19 |
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Judging from what you want, save your money for the 360 to buy other games for the PS3. If you're so into shooters, then 360 is better for that, but otherwise, stick with the PS3. 
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@Lockey That's kinda bold to say, "in the long run the PS3 owned the 360 already" considering it's in no way supported. So they got some ports of games on the 360, it's nowhere near the 360's library or download content to date. More people have a 360, as the 360 has sold 30.20 Million Units to date and the PS has sold 22.27 Million Units, both of which operate at a loss, though the 360 less so. This isn't even really about which owns which however, it's a question of whether to get it or not. I'd say if you can spare the cash, pick one up. If you're short on PS3 games you want to get, check out the 360 lineup and make sure there's a good stack of titles you're interested in getting. Glancing over at my own collection... Mass Effect The Last Remnant Infinite Undiscovery Naruto: Rise of a Ninja Naruto: The Broken Bond Halo 3 Are the only ones I can confidently say the PS3 doesn't have, though I'm not going into my DLC library and pulling out the large number of games the PSN doesn't have. Personally though, if you're looking for a system you probably don't have a lot of games for and are interested in more classic gaming, look into a Wii. I barely use it for console titles, but it's really nice for the Virtual Console, Square-Enix is slowly opening it's library to the system and Seiken Densetsu, Final Fantasy, and several other franchises are getting posted on it, not to mention a sequel to Final Fantasy IV. |
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on 2009-05-25 16:59:13 (edited 2009-05-25 17:02:42)
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bold way to say indeed. as you might now both company has started to plan the next next gen console, lastly if you follow the blu-ray HD dvd battle Xbox had lose the battle and if i have to say what would happen if FFXIII going to Xbox360 then it would be like a tons of disc.... (a fan had calculate the byte of ps3 FFXIII demo and you will surprise on how many GB are there for the demo and lastly I'm talking about japan market XBox in japan had been considering drop on sale even the top list game (such as resident evil 5 and such had been put to the sale trolley in akiba store) so if you say I'm bold then yes. This is like ps3 is late sprinter. and if you think what would happen next, then you would likely see that xbox is doom prediction since he got no blu-ray disc player.. and seeing claude list of genre and final pick I came to conclusion that he like RPG microsoft might have invest tons of money to make xbox have japanese RPG (this is the reason I buy this console too) but as you can see and as DA said Xbox mostly consist of FPS game. I don't want to start on the console spec since it will have many debate. but I have to say 25gb per disc compare to 8 gb per disc what would you chose??? 25 gb storage mean if you are the game maker, 1. no need to worry about space restriction 2. no need to compressed the game unless necessarily 3. might only need 1 disc whilst in xbox might have 4 this mean lower production cost slowly but steadily PS3 start diversing their game, it's not because DLC or such that I base that statement its because blu-ray is still advance technology that everyone not touching it but if you spend time then most likely in the future blu-ray is the new media storage for all hollywood also has switched to blu-ray didn't they btw in term of network Xbox owned ps3 but in term of technology, ps3 owned Xbox and if you want fact consider it economic view but if you still really want it then see the news and you will find a slight deviation fact: 1. PS3 FFXII demo size is 5GB, imagine the full game would be in xbox360 2. xbox360 undoubtedly the cheapest multi-platform gaming system with good network feature 3. most game are not exclusive anymore. (tales of vesperia, FFXIII) 4. the head of both company says this; Sony: “Xbox Lacks Longevityâ€, MS: “Sony is Out of Touchâ€; think about this if its true or not 5. article from sankaku post april 2009 Xbox 360 Doomed in Japan: Outsold by PS2 The much heralded resurgence of the Xbox 360 in Japan appears to have been as fleetingly ephemeral as the life of a mayfly; the latest sales figures show it being outsold by the lowly and supposedly obsolescent PS2, and the PS3 is outselling it by a margin of nearly 5 to 1, also beating the Wii: PS3: 22,825 Wii: 17,276 PS2: 5,246 360: 4,849 DSi: 57,401 PSP: 54,148 DS: 8,408 These are the weekly sales figures ending March 29th. The good source->[this is a link]. The PS3 has been outselling the Wii for over a month; however, with the release of MS “exclusive†Star Ocean 4 in February, sales briefly beat both the Wii and the PS3, reaching some 25,000. The success was however short lived… It would appear that periodic RPG releases are the only thing keeping sales going. It seems Sony will take the Japanese market without issue, but the crucial issue is of course whether it can achieve similar success in the US (seemingly unlikely) and Europe (where it may have a chance). so in the end I remind you again what I talk is in Japan.
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"bold way to say indeed. as you might now both company has started to plan the next next gen console, lastly if you follow the blu-ray HD dvd battle Xbox had lose the battle" First off, the XBox 360 only used an adapter unit, for movies and not games, they weren't really part of any race. Due to trade share laws, the next generation of the X-Box will likely have Blu-Ray. Also: Sony has no plans for the next generation round on a console, this has been stated multiple times throughout the media. "and if i have to say what would happen if FFXIII going to Xbox360 then it would be like a tons of disc.... (a fan had calculate the byte of ps3 FFXIII demo and you will surprise on how many GB are there for the demo and lastly I'm talking about japan market" Apparently you're wrong, the amount of discs doesn't really matter to them. :) http://kotaku.com/5025018/final-fantasy-xiii-coming-to-xbox-360 "XBox in japan had been considering drop on sale even the top list game (such as resident evil 5 and such had been put to the sale trolley in akiba store)" Weak, really, the 360 only ever started selling strong in Japan due to several J-RPGs, Biohazard never had a strong console sales pull to begin with. Secondly, America has a lot more people to sell units to, then there's also Europe, if you want to prove anything, use the world market, not just the region that favors you. "but I have to say 25gb per disc compare to 8 gb per disc what would you chose??? 25 gb storage mean if you are the game maker, 1. no need to worry about space restriction 2. no need to compressed the game unless necessarily 3. might only need 1 disc whilst in xbox might have 4 this mean lower production cost" 3 negates 1 and 2 for consideration, if you're going multiple disc, you no longer need to worry about compressing a game nor a space restriction. Lost Odyssey is a 4 disc game for the 360, god forbid you need to get up every 10-12 hours and change discs. Most of the rest of your points focus on "if" FFXIII made it to the 360... it is making it, so... this is laughable. Also, the PS3 was outsold by the PS2, does that make it doomed too? Most of your statistics and facts are on day to day to support your opinion and localized in Japan, one of the two companies isn't in Japan, only about 30% of the third party developers worldwide are in Japan, so let's broaden our horizons a little, shall we? Why is it fanboys of any console constantly must use the term "doomed" when describing the fate of whatever they're biased against? The 360 isn't doomed, people are screaming back into stores demanding to have them exchanged. They systems are sold. When you're this close to the end of a generation and the units are already sold (more then the PS3, I might add), a company really could care less at this point. A slow in sales week to week is nothing compared to the total sales since a product was released. If you think these companies are surviving on a weekly income, I really suggest you go back to school and pass economics this time. |
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on 2009-05-25 21:27:41 (edited 2009-05-25 21:38:22)
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DMC4 wasn't a port actually, DMC had always been on the Playstation but released multi-plat this gen. Anyway, back on topic. Both systems have their upsides and downsides, in the end it's all about what you want from your console as well as how much you are willing to pay. Games: Forget about this category, because besides First Party games there really aren't that many 'exclusives' anymore. The few games published by third parties that are exclusive to a system are almost 80% likely to be ported to the other system at some point (Tales of Vesperia for 360 is being ported to PS3 for example, the same as Bioshock was) and usually when they are ported to the other system they include more features that the other version didn't have. So unless you're a massive Halo or Gran Turismo fan, there really isn't a point in getting into this, both systems have a good number of titles that are worth playing. Also, the 360 does have a larger library of games, but you have to remember there's a difference between which games are good and which aren't (case in point, the Wii, which has a huge number of games, most of which are shovelware). Features: This is where it counts, aside from price. What do you want your console for? 360: +Best online service +Netflix ability (US only, as far as I know) +Swappable HDD, up to 120GB +Games don't require install data PS3: +Free online service +Swappable HDD, up to -- (depends on the size of SATA HDD you can find, could be up to 1TB) +Blu-Ray drive built into all models for HD videos +Video store available (again, US only) Both of them have basically the same features, the only difference being that the PS3 has a Blu-Ray drive, the 360 doesn't and the 360 has a great online service, the PS3's depends solely on the developer of the game (so it could be anywhere from good to horrible). The 360 also has a large failure rate. It's something you need to keep in mind when deciding on what to buy. Although the "Red Ring of Death" has been fixed for the most part, there's now a new error called the E74. Price: Depending on how tight of a budget you are on, this is where your choice will most likely be made. Here's the breakdown you can expect. ~PS3~ 80GB ($399) 160GB ($517. Uncharted: Drakes Fortune included) ~360~ Arcade ($199. No HDD.) Pro ($299. 60GB HDD.) Elite ($399. 120GB HDD. Grand Theft Auto 4 bundle available.) Hidden Costs: These are the hidden costs you can expect to drop down for these consoles after you purchase one. ~PS3~ Extra Controller (Optional) - $59 Larger HDD (Optional) - Depends on what you want to spend. SATA HDD can go anywhere from $50 and up, ranging in size from 120GB to 1TB) HDMI Cable (Optional) - $20 to $40 depending on length needed ~360~ Extra Controller (Optional) - $39 for Wired Controller, $59 for Wireless Controller, $89 for Wireless Controller with rechargable battery pack. Battery for Controller (Required) - $4 or more for AA Alkaline Batteries, $30 for rechargable battery pack with charge cable. HDMI Cable (Elite model comes with one) - $20 to $40 depending on length needed. Wireless Adapter (Optional) - $60 or more depending on which store you go to. XBox Live Card (Required for online play) - $60 per year. Larger HDD (Optional) - $99 for a 60GB, $199 for a 120GB. Sorry I can't be of more help, it's really late here for me right now and I have work in the morning.-_- One last thing, please god do not quote sales numbers when talking about system comparisons. Sales numbers are fickle things, they change from region to region, they can flip completely around in only a few months, and they don't reflect which system is better for someone who is thinking about which to buy. Sales numbers are just things that fanboys quote to make themselves seem well informed and throw weight into their usually baseless arguments.    |
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Better comparison then our silly debate, thanks. Essentially that was what I was getting at and trying to curb the sales numbers commentary before it started... unfortunately I only stoked it. As for XBox failures, if you pick up any 360 with a new sku (The 60 GB Family Pack, Elite Bundle with Fable II and Halo 3, or Resident Evil 5 Red Elite Console), they're guaranteed to have a Jasper Unit internals, this newer hardware does not Red Ring. Also the E74 is actually old, predating the Red Ring and extremely rare, you're more likely to get an E64 or E73, both of which are fixed by taking out the HDD and putting it back in, or taking out the power cord and putting them back in. (Dust in the connectors.) In short, if you're getting a new 360, there's not much to worry about in terms of the Red Ring issues. |