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OneManga's material removal
Link | by EDWARD on 2010-07-22 18:38:29
Ok, so this is the first time ive done this sort of thing but right now im seriously annoyed at every manga publisher in existence. Theyve asked onemanga to remove all their reading material... So i was thinking that im never going to buy another page of manga until the publishers let onemanga host manga again. I want other people to tell me if they think its a good idea or not
Its not like im going to stop reading manga (not like i could) but just not buying it as a way to annoy the publishers so that they let us read manga from the site

Edward elric ftw!!!! ~..^

Re: OneManga's material removal
Link | by on 2010-07-22 19:00:20
were you buying manga though you were reading them online? if you werent buying them before then it doesnt really make difference if you arent now right? most people dont buy manga thats why manga publishers did this. manga is not just entertainment, its a business industry. most people who use onemanga dont even buy manga since they can just read online. though i dont like it either i understand why they did it.

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Re: OneManga's material removal
Link | by on 2010-07-22 19:02:40
It is practically considered stealing. Sure, someone bought it, but reading it without buying would be stealing per se.

I also find OneManga very honorable that they would actually do this. The other manga sites I've been to have stated nothing about this and are probably going to ignore it.

I too am disappointed since I can't read my weekly updates, but i don't think the right solution is to be angry about it. If the manga you're reading isn't good enough to buy a volume and support the publisher, then why read it at all?

Tales of FC

Re: OneManga's material removal
Link | by EDWARD on 2010-07-22 19:14:39
Well iusually do buy the larts of the series i do like n i saw mangafox doing this too... But, honestly i wosh they wouldnt... Btw i own like 200 various volumes of manga
Plus by buying the series u can read it elsewhere n there r sum series u cant get except by buying them nightmare inspector, nora, n candidate for goddess

Edward elric ftw!!!! ~..^

Re: OneManga's material removal
Link | by on 2010-07-22 19:18:27
every business is entitled to get there profits. imagine if all of us were actually buying the manga we were reading. more manga would come out and if they are in demand they would be most likely priced cheaper since they are getting more revenue but since that isnt the case. manga they think that wont be popular wont show up. its business

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Re: OneManga's material removal
Link | by EDWARD on 2010-07-22 19:24:51
Good point... It pains me to say it, but your right.... I still really really dont like the manga removal i must find some way to get the publisjers to undo the ban... Or maybe just find another site...

Edward elric ftw!!!! ~..^

Re: OneManga's material removal
Link | by on 2010-07-22 19:29:44
I found out yesterday.
Now where do I read manga online?
T_T
I guess it isn't really the publishers' fault; it is actually illegal to upload scanlations if they are liscenced, right? Sure, most titles aren't yet liscenced, but they will be one day, so this really is inevitable.
For me, though, I actually do purchase published manga, so I will end up reading what I want anyway, but I have to say it is quite inconvenient since purchasing does take a while and manga isn't published that often other than in magazines. I'm sure a lot of people are ticked off that OneManga will be removing all manga uploads.
But yes, if a series is worth purchasing then I guess waiting a little won't kill anyone. Mangaka do rely on profits for a living. Buying manga isn't really a waste of money either; books last for decades.
OneManga is the best manga site ever.


Re: OneManga's material removal
Link | by on 2010-07-22 19:31:01
I highly doubt that the sites will go back up. Business is business and they're losing extreme revenue with people just reading online and not supporting online. I don't think that any petition, no matter how many signatures it has, can lift the ban that has been placed. Good luck trying to find a site though, the only ones left (if any) will be the virtually unknown, third party sites.

I'm a hypocrite by saying all this, since I've really only owned one volume of a series in my life. But I can sympathize with the companies, but also with the affected. It is a little sudden and came a little to abrupt if you ask me. It would've been easier if they had eased us into it.

Tales of FC

Re: OneManga's material removal
Link | by EDWARD on 2010-07-22 19:36:07 (edited 2010-07-22 19:48:34)
a different site has a manga section n same with manga volume... I hvnt heard if hey will be deleting their content yet... And manga fox doesnt look like it will... I just hope that this mess will get sorted out n yeah i do wish theyd eases us off...

Edward elric ftw!!!! ~..^

Re: OneManga's material removal
Link | by mjia on 2010-07-22 19:55:00
Weird...you see,as edward stated,they only want to remove one manga,but not others....there are still manga fox,manga reader,manga toushokan and etc....why does they only remove one manga?.....


Re: OneManga's material removal
Link | by on 2010-07-22 19:58:04
"wanting to remove" is not the correct way to put it. OneManga is the only one having an honorable descent, the other sites, are just trying to play it off, but I'm giving them less than a month before they are shut down if they don't abide to the publishers' wishes.

Tales of FC

Re: OneManga's material removal
Link | by EDWARD on 2010-07-22 20:18:41
Ya i was wondering about that too... But i kinda wish the publishers wouldnt do this... I no its for buissness but that doesnt mean i like it
N wat is the reason this whole mess started, theyve been leaving the sites alone for as long as i can remember... Y start fussing now?

Edward elric ftw!!!! ~..^

Re: OneManga's material removal
Link | by mjia on 2010-07-22 20:21:47
@Haseo

Sorry for that.
Kay...again...they remove onemanga in a week times...
But you see,not all of us who are manga fans can afford to buy all series...
i read bout 10++ series in a time[maybe more than that]....and how can i afford to buy 10 series in a time?xP

Anyway,if the mangas are worth to buy volumes,i'll buy it.
Just hope that the mangakaS dun use such forceful method..>.<~Weekly update...**

p.s.But not only english sub like onemanga,mangafox have the site for the mangas,even the mandarin subbed site also got....i wonder how they can removed all these site....


Re: OneManga's material removal
Link | by on 2010-07-22 20:22:49
The WORLD is in a recession. profits are going down for alot of companies so manga industry has to cut off what they can so they can still bring in revenue

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Re: OneManga's material removal
Link | by devils-angel on 2010-07-22 20:33:23
You act like OM is the only source for manga online.
This doesn't really hurt me since I only read Naruto/Bleach on OM,
which you can read practically anywhere on the internet, and I already read the new chapters before OM even released them.

I like OM, I wish them the best of luck in the future, but yeah the world's not going to end.
And this is basically why we buy music or just dL online. The argument is pointless.

And if you're going to actually buy the volume yourself, why do you care if it's online or not?

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Re: OneManga's material removal
Link | by EDWARD on 2010-07-22 20:38:02
For me, who is basically addicted to manga, having the site cut off sux!!! And i cant afford $10 a book!!!!! so if the publishers were to drop the price by like $5 i wud b totally willing to ditch internet sites

Edward elric ftw!!!! ~..^

Re: OneManga's material removal
Link | by on 2010-07-22 21:43:37
Aw~ soo sad~ :<


Re: OneManga's material removal
Link | by ocean on 2010-07-23 08:12:05 (edited 2010-07-23 08:20:32)
Poor OM Y_Y I know that mangafox recently experienced a whole bunch of lawsuits too, however i haven't heard much news about them recently and all the licensed manga series came back online a while ago there. But that also means that the companies are going after more sites then just OM

I fully understand the publishers wishes to stop the whole "free reading" online. People tend to only read online and buy a manga volume maybe once in a blue moon.

My whole problem is that if they plan to take down every free manga site, they have to take responsibility for the demand of manga that is present! For example, currently, there is only a tiny tiny fraction of the manga i read available to read offline where i live. Even the library has a seriously lacking collection. Not to mention what they do have is very old, new releases are few and far between (e.g. the "latest" chapter of bleach i saw yesterday was still on ichigo and grimmjaw's fight -__-). Then the price of manga is just ridiculus, $10 per volume plus tax only allows me to buy a few volumes at a time every once in a while T_T

What they publishers need to do is either license manga faster and bring it here in a more timely manner or find some way to legally do it online. Heck they could hire scan groups and then just host them online where someone could pay a reasonable amount per month to be able to read all they want (like megavideo does kinda). I realize there are some sites that do this already but i find them unfair since they collect money while the scan group usually works for free, i also have a sneaking suspicion that the mangakas or publishers get none of the profit from thoses sites >_<

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Re: OneManga's material removal
Link | by devils-angel on 2010-07-23 13:00:32
Companies aren't going to give into sells, they loose profits from the start.

But that's just the scary thing about this type of scenario.
If you ban something online completely, nobody is willing to buy it.
Same thing when it comes with music, we're not millionaires who can buy whatever we want, whenever we want,
people have to think about that, and when it comes with music, companies and record labels sort of understand that already,
but yeah when it comes with other things such as this now, it'll have to be the same way or no way at all.

There's no chance of banning manga completely from the internet,
because people who buy the manga can easily scan it online and have new translations,
and eventually websites will be formed once again, and then we have a commencing cycle without an end.
I think this is not an issue in actual Japan though, those fans are more supportive when it comes to that stuff,
but yeah I think they have international troubles, but "manga" is not one of the world's like, top ten things to fix.
lol, people and fans hope that would be the case but no,
and having licensing something, it's not the publishers fault is the license come out slow,
America has had issues releasing their stuff super late, even to this day even. Can't blame the original publishers.

It's a tough battle, but one way or another, not much is going to change sadly.

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Re: OneManga's material removal
Link | by Wolf on 2010-07-23 14:01:29
The way I see it, they're cutting off the hosting sites but is it safe to assume the scan teams are rather unaffected atm? So maybe just read the credits page in one of the chapters(you know the one you usually skip right past) and get your fix off their direct releases.

Honestly the only thing I did when I saw OM's shutdown message was sigh and download a cracked Rosetta Stone for Japanese. I might as well cave in now and import my obscure sh*t directly instead of hoping a scan team picks up the volume and does it for me. And maybe bump myself down from following 47 mangas to a more manageable number I can afford.

I got mad respect for all the work scan/trans teams put into keeping us leechers fixed up with manga and anime but I gotta have even more respect for the people who make and publish it in the first place.

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