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I would like to start some conversation about what the United States has been doing in the middle east. I am currently reading Michael Moore'sDude, Where's my Country?, and it is all very disturbing to me. I have been a sceptic ever since 9/11 about out (my) government's intentions. i find bush's ties to the bin laden family surprising, and also the fact that so many people believe the multitudes of lies we are told every day. 
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well im an iranian-canadian. born in iran then moved to canada. i have no sympothy for saddam because he waged war against me. however , what bush has doen with his time is idiotic and scary. i have family who work in the states and some have lostthere jobs because of his bullshit economic plan. not only is the world better without saddam, it will be better without bush. also, there was a report in a canadian newpaper that bush met with saddam on his "suprise" visit to baghdad. Theyve had him for a while and drugged him. bush has doen the same of what saddam has done but in the illusion of " the war against terrorism." not to mention all the inocent ameriacan and iraqi lives hes distroyed for HIS intentions. bush is truly a disgusting man
No matter how far a Jackass runs, he'll never come back a horse.
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umm.. whats that little thing at the end of your post.......then " that is the question" lol
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Bush is indeed a piece of shit! But a lot of the problems the US is trying to solve today, are problems they, previous governements, have created themselves. Sadam came to power in Irak with help of the US, not publicly offcourse. Because the US wanted some more western minded country overthere, and especially some cheap oil. But once Sadam was thru with playing a puppet for the US and attacked Koeweit, this interfered with US politics and interests, so they started the first Golf War. But when Irak was at war with Iran for about 10 years.....the US did nothing. Similar stuff happened all over South America, the US wanted regimes that where favourable to the US, and look at all the shit that is going on down there. The US basically fucked the whole area up. Now with Bush, 9/11 was a gift from God for him, so he could start this all war on terrorism thing. What else would he have done with his four years if that wouldn't have happened? It's ok that he cought Saddam, but the way he did it, starting a second Golf War against international/world politics. Some say here that the US didn't even find Saddam, they just took them from the Koerds, or they handed him over for money. So whole that "we found him in a pit with X amount of money and a gun" is a whole lot of bullshit story. Same thing with the Bin Laden familly, which has indeed ties with the Bush familly. As you can see Bush is a whole lotta crap. And he's a dumb fuck too. Let's just hope he doesn't get reelected! Sorry for some explicit content and spelling mistakes.
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RUZ: it's a quote from W. Shakespeare in perl if I'm not mistaking. His most famous quote.
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the funny code looking junk is a perl type regular expression that matches two B's or not two B's. it is indeed a joke on the hamlet quote of infamy "to be, or not to be, that is the question."
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bush is a politition, and their kind cares about one thing along: getting reelected. he is using any excuse to meet those ends, even if it means blowing the limbs off innocent children whose only crime was being born in iraq. i do care about the people of iraq, i also care about myself and my own friends. the PATRIOT act is the unraveling of freedom in our country. when congress passed the patriot act, many of the members who voted on it did not know it was a different version than the one they had seen before. they didnt even know what most of the cryptic bill meant in plain terms. i pray to god that bush is not reelected. i encourage everyone who is a US voter to vote for the best chance against bush, whoever that might be, so long as they believe in democracy. anyone read the book by george orwell called 1984? every time i hear about the patriot act i am reminded of that book.
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i read it, still scares me. with a thing like echelon watching and listening to all of us everyday, orwell's nightmare is bound to come true.
No matter how far a Jackass runs, he'll never come back a horse.
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by knoxinator
on 2004-04-26 17:56:02
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Before getting attacked for being a conservative, I do not necessarily agree with what Bush has done, at least not totally. I think it was necessary to take Saddam out, since it was going to happen sooner or later by someone, but I don't like the way we went in so soon after 9/11. As far as reelecting Bush, I'm going to, just because I'm scared of what will happen if Kerry gets elected. It gives me nightmares. |
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Knoxinator, I will also be voting for President Bush come November. I too don't agree with President Bush on everything - especially with some of his domestic policies (i.e. immigration, gay marriages), BUT at least the man is doing SOMETHING (besides just talking and appeasement) in regard with the WoT. IMHO, if we lose the WoT, everything else will be a moot point. Back to topic. I don't think the war was about the oil. We've spent billions pursuing our enemies in Afghanistan and Iraq. You'd think we could have just used the money and bought the oil outright. Besides, if it was just about the oil, why didn't we invade Canada. We get about 19 percent of our imported oil from Canada. We only get 9 percent from Iraq. It would have been easier to invade Canada (logistics wise anyway). :) |
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by Kurogasawa
on 2004-06-17 09:12:42
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It'd be easier to get oil in Alaska, because it's our territory and no one would bash us for getting it there But since the enviromentalists would bitch too much over the permafrost being damaged by the drilling, we can't I don't understand why people won't let us utilize our own resources
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its not as simple as just doing SOMETHING!!!! u say at least bush is doing something!!! wtf was he doing before all this happened.... he is clueless about everything and the fact the CIA director resigned prooves it. R u saying wat makes a good leader is someone who gets off his ass only after 2000+ people die? specialy becuz of his ignorance?? 911 was bush's fault. however 911 is just a small part bush's resume next to all the soldiers who died in iraq and afghanistan. i say we get rid of bush with saddam... there exactly the same: dictators horny for oil, money, and power. one more thing, the entire time before the iraq war, bush and his crew kept saying how bad saddam is at "calculating" his moves. i dont think bush can even ADD how many lives he ruined along with destroying iraq. if u vote for bush , im sorry, but ur an ignorant fool. ohh and he didnt invade canada cuz we would have owned his ass hahaha ( with our 10 guns and 2 planes)
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by TheSubsect
on 2006-01-13 04:22:23 (edited 2006-01-16 20:14:16)
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i don't know if you have seen this or not but check this out. 1) New York City has 11 letters 2) Afghanistan has 11 letters. 3) Ramsin Yuseb (The terrorist who threatened to destroy the Twin Towers in 1993) has 11 letters. 4) George W Bush has 11 letters. This could be a mere coincidence, but this gets more interesting: 1) New York is the 11th state. 2) The first plane crashing against the Twin Towers was flight number 11. 3) Flight 11 was carrying 92 passengers. 9 + 2 = 11 4) Flight 77 which also hit Twin Towers, was carrying 65 passengers. 6+5 = 11 5) The tragedy was on September 11, or 9/11 as it is now known. 9 + 1+ 1 = 11 6) The date is equal to the US emergency services telephone number 911. 9 + 1 + 1 = 11. Sheer coincidence..?! Read on and make up your own mind: 1) The total number of victims inside all the hi-jacked planes was 254. 2 + 5 + 4 = 11. 2) September 11 is day number 254 of the calendar year. Again 2 + 5 + 4 = 11. 3) The Madrid bombing took place on 3/11/2004. 3 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 4 = 11. 4) The tragedy of Madrid happened 911 days after the Twin Towers incident. Now this is where things get totally eerie: The most recognized symbol for the US, after the Stars & Stripes, is the Eagle. The following verse is taken from the Quran, the Islamic holy book: "For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced: for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah and there was peace." That verse is number 9.11 of the Quran. Still uncovinced about all of this..?! Try this and see how you feel afterwards, it made my hair stand on end: Open Microsoft Word and do the following: 1. Type in capitals Q33 NY. This is the flight number of the first plane to hit one of the Twin Towers. 2. Highlight the Q33 NY. 3. Change the font size to 48. 4. Change the actual font to the WINGDINGS what do you think about that? |
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by desertranger
on 2006-01-13 06:49:20
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I will not have you insult a piece of shit by comparing it to GW Bush. At least a piece of shit has character. Bush has none. Heres is what I think of bush. Coward loser scardy cat religious fanatic terrorist murderer kidnapper torturer and a whole lot more. He is the worst thing to happen to the world in the last 100 years, worse than Hitler. He has broken the laws of the US and the Constitution. He has convinced everyone he can keep us safe and he can't. He spends billions of dollars so the people of Iraq can have health and education and more while his own country goes unheeded and ignored while we suffer because we can't afford education or health care. He is taking away our Constitutional freedoms inder the so called patriot act. It should be called the unpatriot act. The actual title has nothing to do with patriotism, here it is; `Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism (USA PATRIOT ACT) Act of 2001'. That doesn't spell patriot to me. He keeps Ameiican citizens in jail without allowing them to talk to a lawyer. Violates their constitutional rights. Want more? He has disavowed the world court so he can escape criminal proscution in his quest of death, power and terrorism. His goal is to steal oil from Iraq put the money in his pocket and to embroil the world in a war more horrible than WWII while screwing the rest of us. The the most powerful terrorists in the world are GW Bush, Dickhead Cheney and Donald Rumsfield. All of them need to be tried in a court of law, found guilty, locked up and the key thrown away. To invade a sovergein country with the bullshit excuse of WMD and then says "I didn't know, I had bad intellegence". He didn't have bad intellegence cause he has none. He lied he wanted to make war in Iraq and used 9/11 as an excuse to do it. George W Bush, president of the United States has made the entire world hate us. He should be removed from office, placed on a ship and never never never be allowed to places his filthy feett on US soil again and when he dies his body should be buried at sea without a flag. He is a traitor to the American citizen and the American way of life. Now under the current Bush laws of the US I am not allowed to say that. Under the US Constitution I am. I am an Americian Citizen and pride of it. I have no pride in what our leaders have done to the world. For that I apologize.  |
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by lil_ro_boi
on 2006-01-13 06:52:06
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wowie tht must have taken a lotta thought n time to write ranger... n i totalli agree wif u 100%^^ 
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by psycotic_lemur
on 2006-01-13 06:55:30
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| He sounds like every other president to me. They were all curoupt and conceded. I don't agree with everything they say but my Pop is in the Military and I support him all the way. I say if you don't want to support the government support the soldiers. They are the ones over there who are being killed and putting their lives on the line while we get to sleep in out nice soft beds. Support them, don't hate them. Even if my dad where to die I would not hate Bush, I would say My dad was a hero who died in the line of duty protecting My mother, my sister and Myself. I am Proud of him and every other solider out there. And besides if Bush took away all of our constitutional rights, we couldn't complain about him now could we. So maybe it ain't all bad...no all good...but not all bad. |
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we all kno the reason for the war to begin with and its not nesscisarily oil....its because we have to many people unemployed and by expending a few soilders we will be more comfortable and happy living in america (now the terrorists dont take an attack lightly so this whole war started...the oil is just a plus and for anyone who thinks that iraq did or does have nukes then why didnt we go into Nkorea to get thiers out???(if someone stated any of this sorry i just jumped in with out reading...forgive me...)
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i haven't thought about that unemployment thing going on. but back in college we cited reasons including oil. you still remember the time when your government encouraged famine in the middle east? you lived by that 'no crude, no food' principle. besides your current president is the son of the former president who led that gulf war, which is also motivated by the oil industry. the bush family is said to own or a share/stockholder of an american oil company. i forgot about the details, i'm sorry, i've read that from the reading materials our professor had provided us. plus, the leading heavy industry (tnc) from your land also benefited from these wars. i think something named bechtel (uh! i really forgot), it's the corp which sponsored the so-called "restructuring of Afghanistan'. not to mention the weapons your soldiers used. these wars are hiding behind the righteous reason of eradicating terrorism in the world but the truth is they are mainly for economic stability of one country assuming great power/control  |
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by desertranger
on 2006-01-13 09:01:22 (edited 2006-01-14 05:19:18)
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Roy boy it takes no time to tell the truth. I edited this and removed most of the post. I have no wish for that to be here and since I wrote it that is my privlige. Lady Rin |
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Gij power is not assumed by any country ever regardless if it is Iraq, Iran, the UK or the USA. Power is assumed by politicians who say they speak for the people. It is because of the politicians and their ilk that the Americans are a hated people. By an large most Americans do not want anything to do with the war, nor do they want to be called the worlds police. Yet when there is a problem in your neighborhood the first thing that is done is to scream for the police. \ America has been embroiled in an illegal war created by politicians. Does that mean that the average American citizen is worth your hate?  |
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