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Why F14s cannot blow up gundams…
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on 2006-01-12 11:40:36 (edited 2006-01-12 11:41:42)
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Why F14s cannot blow up gundams… First off, I want to say that I don’t think gundams can defeat anything anime comes up with. But I am familiar with most mechs and real or fake and I can say they can’t beat gundams. I will also say this, some gundams and ms can be beat by other stuff, but if there was something that could beat any gundam, I would concede defeat. Let me lay out the general stuff. Advanced stuff like star trek and stuff like that could beat gundams. And just for the record, star wars could not. Battleship vs. Star Destroyer: Winner: Star Destroyer. GM vs. tie fighter: Winner: GM. The tie fighter would be little more than target practice. Once, a friend asked me if gundams would really be useful in real life. Here’s what I told him. While speed is important, it is not a gundam’s most important advantage. With the element of surprise on its side, mobile suits are very effective. One disadvantage is they need cover, which means their fight is restricted to heavily forested areas, suburbs, or deep water. A mobile suit’s primary advantage is versatility, mobility, and maneuverability. Changing weapons in the heat of battle, fast reaction, and being able to turn on a dime. I would like to see an F14 do that at speeds in excess of 3000 mph. Taking a beating. The worst kind of armor I’ve seen a mobile suit built with is titanium/ceramic hybrid alloy. I understand how powerful 130 pounds of explosives are, that’s enough to blow up a small city. And granted, it wouldn’t take many of them to blow up a gundam. With that kind of weapon, a pilot has three options. Shoot it down, dodge it, or sacrifice the shield if it has one. If it must fight in the air, it wouldn’t many jets to bring it down. Currently, the most advanced and most powerful gundam is the Freedom. Just on batteries, the Strike gundam can take about 75 hits before the armor losses power. The Freedom has the same armor with almost unlimited power. BTW, phase shift is a energy shield. There is one supreme gundam no one can touch with a single weakness that can be exploited only by a specific person. The dark gundam or devil gundam can grow to ANY size needing only a female pilot. This gundam grew to point where bombarding it with nukes would be useless. It has three abilities that make it invincible, the ability to self-regenerate, self-evolve, and self-multiply. It’s only because the pilot was in love that the dark gundam lost. If anyone is familiar with the Borg on star trek, this guy is just as bad and worse.  |
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on 2006-01-12 11:58:04 |
too bad gundams arent real and F14s are :P 
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on 2006-01-12 13:46:17 |
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True... *sobs* but we're getting close to making thermo-nuclear generators, so we aren't far from it. So I hold out hope. |
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"too bad gundams arent real and F14s are :P" Thats why this thread is a littel odd. Neither person can win the argument. Gundams can't destroy F14s because Gundams are not real. F14s cannot destroy Gundams because Gundams are not real. @Critic-I doubt the government would make advanced fighting systems like gundams,at least not in the same design. Gundams are based on human proportions-not the best suited for combat. The F14 on the other had is suited for combat seeing how it is slim and is harder to hit while in the air. The only problem being its lack of complete armor like gundams. If they did make something like gundams,it would probably be called the F33 or somehing like that. In other words the F14 would probably evolve into the gundam. |
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That's kinda my thought, but humanoid mechs do have their usefulness, however, I don't think they'll be designed as tall unless they're made in space first. My bet is the military would go nuts for a battle armor. Also, there has to be a better kind of armor that what anyone has now. The first mobile suit was the zaku, its only weapons was a machine gun, (probably for helicopters, so on) and a bazooka. In space, these guys were invincible, they could take out ma and warships with ease. When they went to Earth, they weren't suited to ground combate like Zeon thought they would. So they invented specialized ma to cope with the problem. When the Fedis invented ms, that little bandaid didn't work anymore. |
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by desertranger
on 2006-01-12 19:02:17
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I would like to write something tonight only I can't. Not in the mood. That's the reason for scifi. My F-14s scifi weapons can kill any mech. " The only problem being its lack of complete armor like gundams." What do you think titainium is? No one has ever shot down an F-14 period.  |
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on 2006-01-12 19:09:31 |
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I am well aware of its track record, titanium is tough, but in the gundam world, that's like bare minimum. Unless you have some 'power of the universe'weapon on that thing, its useless. |
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"In other words the F14 would probably evolve into the gundam." hmm.. i like what you said right there.
love & peace
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Earlier versions is likely to look like Veretech Fighters from Macross/Robotech...  Kneel Before the Great and Benevolent Cow! |
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I don't gundams or even mobile armor will ever exist. What is truly useful are faster, stronger, longer ranged, more unavoidable, more untrackable missiles and the things that can launch them. I think the design of anything with legs wont be made, at least for combat. Even if it was possible to make something near a gundam, with that technology they could design something better. So why gundams? Because they look cool.  Jomunga eats your avatars. |
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by overlordsero
on 2006-01-13 01:14:09
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But if you notice fights with the gundams can go in SPACE....OUTER SPACE. And having a gundam seeing that it is MOBILE it is easier to hide(cause it moves) and can take out those stationary staions of misseles. And with missles, you need to make more and more of them to blow stuff up right? Well a gundam doesnt need that to a point. It can destroy things without ammunition, But it will need to be fuled. So you say there is no need? I think there is. ^_^ 
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What I am saying is if they create a weapon that has no need for ammunition, it won't have legs. Who needs legs in space? I think gundams should have wheels and wings. Not arms and legs. The wierd thing is in these gundam shows the gundams are all futuristic but the missles are modern. With that tech they should be able to make a missile that can take out gundams. "And with missles, you need to make more and more of them to blow stuff up right? Well a gundam doesnt need that to a point. It can destroy things without ammunition, But it will need to be fuled." You have to make more and more of gundams if you want to do that too. A missile would be cheaper. And at that point of tech these gundams should be weilding laser cannons. Jomunga eats your avatars. |
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You have a good point, Jomunga, and that'll probably be our future too, but it takes more than missiles to win a war. Gundams are best suited to outer space, otherwise you have to make one cusutomed to earth fighting. It would be a good thing if we didn't invent them while we were still stuck on one planet. Those kind of battles would kill many in heavily populated area. The truth is in space, ms are next to invicible, on the ground, they're little more than gloryfied tanks unless you have inhuman skills and abilities. |
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on 2006-01-15 00:44:29 (edited 2006-01-15 00:49:56)
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gundam can't catch up with an f-14 anyway,i'm not talking about outer space,gundam don't even have that aerodynamic design and f-14's design isn't just nice to see,it has that delta wing and other stuff to move in the sky but gundam looks like a giant toy moving in the air,sorry gundam fans.. 
'Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be The future's not ours to see,Que sera, sera' |
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A message from Ranger. He will answer this topic later he;s getting readin for work. He want;s me to tell you that the F-14 is not a variable geometry wing not a delta. that means it can change shape, I think.  |
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ops..my mistake,i went through my notes and it's a variable sweep wing,which is superior to the clasic delta wing i think
'Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be The future's not ours to see,Que sera, sera' |
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You're right, they could if they didn't have to worry about wind resistance and all that I'm more curious about this sci-fi weapon desert has thought up. A f-14 can't defeat every gundam envented, and its not because of speed. And I don't know if they served in the war in Iraq, but they've never served in any other war, the reason why they have a spotless record is because they've never been shot at! And it would take quite some sci-fi weapon to destroy a gundam that can GROW to any size it wants and has the ability to regenerate its damage at a very high rate not to mention it's ability to adapt to any type of attack. The for mentioned gundam is called Devil or Dark Gundam. It could defeat an f-14 just being a ground target. |
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| The problem with gundams is.......................in the distant futuer I believe that everything will be fought with missels,not guns. |
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Oh, and I forgot to mention earlier, legs are good for extra thrust, manueverability, and for carring extra arsenel. Most don't make good use of their legs. Legs could serve as storage for fuel, ammo, repair stuff, and other stuff. Feet make ms easier to launch, and adds extra speed in space. They also make an effective close combat weapon when fighting other ms. |
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Ranger F-14s are in servicein Saudi Arabia, Libya and Iseral. They have been to war. They have also been to war i iraq. The prob is no one wants to fight them. /Ranger |
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