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Google's Subpoena
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on 2006-03-14 20:46:57 (edited 2006-03-15 07:28:59)
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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/15/technology/15google.html This whole subpoena is strange for a couple reasons: 1. If they are testing website filtering software, why not just install it and test it themselves. I see no reason that samples of search queries or website addresses would be of any help, much less necessary, for "testing" filtering software. 2. What are people so worried about? The search queries are not personally identifiable! If your identity is unknown, your privacy is safe. Its not like they are giving out apache logs or anything like that. What do you think? 
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Re: Google's Subpoena
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I just think it's interesting what the government is trying to do. I'm only waiting for things to play out and see what the outcome may be.    |
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I get weird when the ACLU is involved in anything. They tend to do some pretty crazy things from time to time. It seems that file some of their lawsuits just to have people say "how interesting!", or to enrage or shock some people. I agree that this whole thing kinda stinks. While it would be nice to limit the amount of creepy stuff that kids get exposed to, I tend to think that that is the responsiblity of the PARENTS, not the government. It is sad that we have to enact laws to protect kids instead of parents protecting them. |
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Re: Google's Subpoena
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I really think it's a perfectly reasonable request, although I don't see why the government is testing filtering services. For true effectiveness the filtering prorams need to be written open-source for the entire world to review and test, not just a handful of government workers. |
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Re: Google's Subpoena
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on 2006-03-15 09:40:36 |
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open-source filtering software is a good idea! yea, it doesnt make sense. that leads me to believe that its a test to see how much they can get away with.
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by YoYotheCananbalisticOreo
on 2006-03-15 17:59:32
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i agree, many initiatives that the government follows through with quickly is usually becuase they have a stake in it especially with thier increased efforts in homeland security.
I could give no less because I could give no more. ~myself
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Re: Google's Subpoena
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I think it's one of those damned idiotic circumstances where they are spending tax dollars because some protocol says they have to, and this is what they come up with. Open-source makes a shitload more sense than running it privately. |
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Re: Google's Subpoena
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on 2006-03-16 07:15:37 |
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Really I believe that the governmnet is growing nervous about the power google has aquired. A company with that much information is quite daunting; and as they always say, 'Knowledge is power'. |
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Re: Google's Subpoena
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on 2006-03-16 16:58:38 (edited 2006-03-16 17:00:14)
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Actually I think it's a grab for power and a way to invade your privacy. We tried searches at Google, Yahoo and AOL on another forum and turned up almost nothing wth the default filters in places. The problem is if I go searching for sexy lingerie and don't find what I want with the moderate search on so I the "safety" level or turn them off altogether. That's quite easy abd you can find it on the main page at Google under preferences, the default is Moderate and they have none and strict as well. The problem is any 12 year old can turn off moderate filtering. This administration ius afraid of everything from terrorists to pornography and are responding to the religious right part of his sect that thinks wants to outlaw even adult porn. Read the article deeper and do your own search, you'll see what I mean. And Gendou, Knowledge is not power, it's information. To have power you have to do something with the knowledge.  |
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Re: Google's Subpoena
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i didnt say that, psoplayer said knowledge is power :P
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Re: Google's Subpoena
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Re: Google's Subpoena
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by Seculi Terminus
on 2006-03-17 10:09:32
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Well, when I took a look, it seems that the reason they're checking the whole internet filter thing is because a majority of Americans (and not just the far religious right) don't want to worry about their kids viewing naked people and they don't want to have to install their own filters - or, most inconvenient of all, supervise their children while they're online. The reason for the lawsuit, I am mostly sure, is because the ACLU views restrictions on what adults can view as a freedom-of-speech violation. In other words, grown-ups are supposed to be able to watch as much porn as they want if they want to, in their view, and if the government is demanding the right to install mandatory porn filters, whatever the kind, the ACLU is probably going to fight back. I'm guessing that their reasoning behind checking Google's web site hits is to see how many pornographic websites are pulled up when their filtering is on compared to when it's off. An open-source filter would probably work better, but these are lawyers and politicians, not programmers. The thought probably never even occured to them. That's my $0.02. Plus change. AKA Home-Dog Ass-Masta' The G-Unit |
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Re: Google's Subpoena
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The resolution of the case |