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Re: Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni Kai
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by satuross,
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on 2007-09-11 10:18:09 |
back to the thread...  me do i wanto to see the end to the minnagoroshi hen, everything looks so good that makes me wonder how con it mess up? (it has to be...) dammit wating for a week is to much... higurashi is one of my favorite animes ã©ã†ã—ã¦ç½ªãŒã‚ã‚‹ã®ã ã‚ㆠ   |
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| lol i hope keichi died already ^^ |
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on 2007-09-11 14:41:33 |
why >.>;? He's the main person that holds up everything. Without him, Rika loses herself.  |
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by satuross,
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on 2007-09-11 21:20:47 |
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yes, keiichi rulz! but he must die... (in this saga) everyone must die (minnagoroshi) ã©ã†ã—ã¦ç½ªãŒã‚ã‚‹ã®ã ã‚ㆠ|
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on 2007-09-11 21:59:05 |
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I just wish fate would cut Rika some slack already....I mean, she's gone through how many hundreds of variations and tried hard.....why is it that the cool little one gets taken out each time specifically? Who's doing it, a loli-necrophiliac? @bdo and satuross: Don't wish ill of K1, he's got guts and he's actually a cool male protagonist (a rarity in shows these days)! Plus him and Rena make a great pairing. Judging from the fact that it's episode 10 of a sequel series and that the plot is clearly reaching a climax, it seems like this is going to be a 13 episode series. And as a result, I really hope that Rika is finally able to break out of that rut in the next 3 episodes -it'd make for a perfect finish.
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on 2007-09-12 11:31:59 |
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^ Sorry to burst your bubble h4x0r, but Kai is 24 episodes, just like the first. Note the Chapter is called the "Massacre," meaning everyone dies. Most of the time a chapter takes 4-5 episodes. This one evidently is important to be longer than normal. |
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on 2007-09-12 19:31:43 |
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Awww.....wait, how do you know the episode count in advance? (if you got it from ANN it's not always concrete I've found). In any case assuming you're right that's a bummer.... Well, I just hope at the very least that they EVENTUALLY make a (series/OVA/finish this series) with Rika finally getting out of that problem time with all her friends....that'd be nice.
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on 2007-09-13 03:10:54 (edited 2007-09-13 03:16:34)
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Lol, all stories must come to an end, most of the time ending with a good one. To answer your question, besides ANN, I was just basing it off the title of the chapter, since most animes are 12,13 or 24,26 episodes. So once this chapter ends w/ everyone dying most likely, Kai needs another 4-5 episodes (or more) for the next chapter/world so it won't make the 12,13 episode length, so I'm guessing it may fill 24 episodes like it's first. Speculating, Rika might be broken down, or possibly she actually may end up in a perfect world (one of the endings in the game) where Keichii and Rena is not there. Rika was driven insane and becomes a villain. |
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on 2007-09-13 23:59:15 |
Well, there's a Matsuribayashi-hen after Minagoroshi-hen, so I don't think it'll end as Minagoroshi-hen ends. According to some game spoilers I read, the ending's a happy one, but perhaps there's a twist in the anime?   |
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on 2007-09-15 13:54:42 (edited 2007-09-15 13:57:10)
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OoOoOoOo, the jig is up. Now we know the villain behind the scenes. Now that I think about it, I was focusing on her to be a suspect 50% of the time. 25% was for the cop, and 25% was for the Sonozakis. But now I guess evidence was really laid out in front as the first season played. Clues I kept on my piece of paper: Tomitake died alone on the road b/t the two towns. Interesting thing, Takano died 24-hrs before Tomitake. Erie died of overdose of narcotics. But he's an doctor and he should KNOW that'll kill him and he didn't die like Tomitake. Takano was shown later in the first season to be Erie's assistant. So that means Erie might have suicided for doing something he knows was bad. Or more like, developed something bad... And now Takano maybe using it against Hinamizawa. Another note was that Takano has a weird obssesion with the curse. This is what made me think Takano did it 50% of the time. Now for the cop, that was because he looks suspicious sometimes throughout the anime. Sonozaki's was b/c of the Watanagashi Chapter in the first season. Now knowing the current situation, There is evidentially four different general situations in each individual worlds: Hinamizawa inhabitants all die Shion becoming nuts Rena becoming nuts Keichii becoming nuts However, they only happen in the specific order if none of the conditions are met to prevent them Keichii becomes nuts (But we don't know what it is that prevents it) If that doesn't happen then, Rena becomes nuts (triggered by Satoko's uncle and him playing the badger game) If that doesn't happen then, Shion becomes nuts (triggered by the doll Keichii won) If that doesn't happen then, The final obstacle, Massacre (hey look, it's the name of the current chapter Kai is on now) This general outcome invovles Satoko's abuse, Keichii's so-called wishful killing (in the first season, Keichii wishes people to die in the same order and circumstances as Takano orders her subordinates to do it), and the overall obliteration of Hinamizawa. Now then, let's see what happens now... Massacre just like in the beginning of Kai. The thing that tipped me off that Takano was the culprit was the fact that she controls the Yaminu (spelled it wrong?) gang and the gang changes roles so fast at times from protection to destruction. Oh yea, to explain Shion's nutty parts, when Shion performs the Watanagashi rituals, I guess Takano had her wish come true about the curse being real so she didn't need to do anything. |
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on 2007-09-15 21:37:53 |
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I always thought there was something weird about that woman.....well, more weird than her usual act that is. Wow....whoever wrote this series must've been a genius, because I didn't think it was possible to take what originally was separate chapters that had little to do with each other, and pull ALL OF THEM together into a single overall storyline! I gotta hand it to the writers for Kai for pulling all of the individually made stories together! Now if only American show/movie writers could do as well as this....
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by satuross,
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on 2007-09-16 12:01:34 |
At first i thought Higurashi went over and over in circles... but still kept watching it because...  gore! i liked the violence in the first season, but now in this season everything is so beautifully explained, i love how it all makes sense, but i feel like "dammit why did i found so 'early' about it, wating for next week's episode gets on my nerves" well that's how i feel about this series overall...Now for the comment of this week damned takano... she's gonna screw the "perfect" world up... but now it makes sense why was a dead takano at the watanagashi matsuri... I think this might explain why are there always so many "dead people" walking around in this series. Dammit I need this week to be over soon, so i can see what happens next!!! ã©ã†ã—ã¦ç½ªãŒã‚ã‚‹ã®ã ã‚ㆠ|
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on 2007-09-16 12:56:50 |
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haha, Takano is only evil in the massacre events (Keichii's wishful killing, and the Volcanic gas). the Watanagashi events where shion is the culprit, Takano is laid back watching. Except the idea of her being burned in the can remains in that chapter... @h4x0r yea I agree that this guy must be a genius. But you know, maybe he had a random idea about it and decided to expand it. Case Closed was how long?? and I wonder how the guy made up so many different scenarios |
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on 2007-09-16 19:22:23 |
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The original Higurashi no Naku Koro ni was started by one group/guy, but the several different scenarios were created by fans in doujinshi and games of the like, and then they were adapted into the anime. All I was saying is I'm impressed that one writer was able to pull together ALL of them in a way that made a lot of sense! minagoroshi = "everyone killing" (literal translation) which has a slightly different meaning though I guess it could be interpreted as massacre...
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No one got the memo it seems. Tokai TV, the premiere broadcaster of Higurashi Kai has decided to cancel all scheduled airings for the time being. No one knows if or when it will ever be aired again or just go straight to DVD For this, we can thank an anonymous 2channer who made the comparison of Tuesday's axe murder in Kyoto to Rena in the first season which officials got wind of. Thank you, 2ch for proving you are the worst thing we could possibly have at a time like this. |
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on 2007-09-21 15:36:53 |
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Yeah, I heard about it. It's not that old news though so no one said anything yet (or cared to) is all. Gosh, it's times like this that my absolute HATE and LOATHING for forums like 4chan and 2chan really appears. Stupid morons on uncensored boards where they can say ANYTHING they want....just asking for trouble like this. AND NOW THEYVE STOPPED SHOWING MY CURRENT FAVORITE SHOW AS A RESULT!!!! I feel like Alma from FEAR right now with the whole, "kill them. Kill them ALL!!" going through my head... But regardless, wtf?? I mean, if it's close to actual events what does it matter?? If someone 'related' to what happened is complaining, they don't have to watch!!! If you don't like it, CHANGE THE CHANNEL AND FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO WATCH!!! It's idiots that don't realize stuff like that that we can thank this whole politically correct crap for going around.....
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on 2007-09-21 16:48:55 |
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Like h4x0r said, what does it matter if it's similar to an actual event? Does it make them think that Higurashi is influencing the perpetrator of the event? Or make them think that this show is some kind of "prediction" about what is about to happen in the future and they're afraid everything in the anime would happen? Oh, God, it's just an anime! |
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on 2007-09-21 18:44:57 (edited 2007-09-21 18:51:32)
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School Days an anime that i watch alot lately was pulled as well due to that incident in Kyoto. When i first saw what the networks replaced it with i was upset...(you can read for yourself in the thread). I had to find out what happened when i read the message one of the RAWs had. I have to disagree with h4xOr-san on this one. Although i don't like that a series i'm closely following is pulled i understand why they did it. I'm gonna ramble on for awhile so bear with me for a moment. Series like Higurashi Kai & School Days have scenes of school girls doing violent acts. If i remember one scene in Higurashi Kai had one of the girls holding an axe. What happened in Kyoto was a school girl killing her father with an axe. That is way too similar. The networks i believe just wanted to let the situation cool off abit before running the series again. The incident happened on Sept.18....so it was just very recent.No one may have cared outside of Japan but in the country i assume it was a big deal....if it wasn't they wouldn't have pulled any of the episode off air. The pulling of episodes is just a precaution...i don't think it's permanent. So calm down about all this....someone was killed....although it has nothing to do with any of us....you do have to respect the familes & what they are going through. Sure this may just well be an isolated incident but still you have to understand why they did it. There is no direct link to either series that the killing happened....so it was the networks who decided to pull the episodes. This may well be life imitating art....or it could be a random occurence. We don't know if the girl was watching any of these shows or if she just snapped due to personal problems. Yes it is JUST AN ANIME....but some people takes things too seriously. Many of us are desensitzed by all the violence that occur in games, anime, movies...etc. Many of us know the difference...but some do not. They see something & thinks its cool. Like i said they take it too seriously....most who do these kind of acts are those who are bullied or have low confidence. Someone who wants to stand out....someone with serious mental problems....Is it the problem of the anime studios/movie studios....no....it may just be a coincidence. We could say the same about what happened in Colonbine....do we say IT'S JUST A VIDEO GAME cause the two were playing 1st person shooters. Stuff like this CAN & WILL happen every single day. It could happen to any one of us. All i'm trying to say is there is nothing we can do at the moment & let things settle down a bit....it won't kill any of us if we wait maybe a while longer for an anime episode. So just relax & don't get to flustered that you aren't able to see the latest episode. Like Asdertygh-san sad..."Oh, God, it's just an anime!" If you disagree with what i have said...that's fine...you have your opinions & i have mine.  |
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on 2007-09-21 20:04:38 (edited 2007-09-21 20:05:41)
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Where they made the connection is what's bugging me. It would have aired and continued just like normal if it weren't for the fact that paranoid officials got wind from a message board. First off, Higurashi was being aired pretty late at night, so no "easily influenced little kids" aren't under applicable jurisdiction since it isn't daylight hours or primetime. Second, according to many of the bloggers that I know over there, that whole situation was given about as much attention as an episode of COPS, and it wasn't until that shows were pulled that it got any considerable attention! Third, there will ALWAYS be issues with crazy people, and there always are, so why on earth is this situation any different??? There's gang violence all the time in Los Angeles, but do they prohibit games like GTA? Of course not. So why on earth is Japan, the single least censored of first world countries in terms of violence and crime on TV, making this big fuss over one show?!? There's more violence on prime time NEWS EVERY OTHER HOUR OF EVERY DAY!!! (and if you don't believe me, in 3 hours of CSPAN I heard of 8 robberies, 3 murders, and a guy's arm being ripped off by an alligator at the zoo complete with pictures of it still in the alligator's jaws). If this were a show that was as violent as Elfen Lied (still little girls killing people, just 20x as many and 5x as quick) then I might understand a little considering the show was specifically designed to give that exact kind of shock. But Higurashi has a kills to episode ratio of a typical shounen show, and Kai has had even less! Actually, the closest thing to anyone under the age of 15 in Kai so far was when Shion almost went berserk but K1 stopped her, proving to the contrary that violence isn't an option anyway! And yes there have been violent parts so far, but all of them come across as no more violent than an episode of Black Lagoon (which in my opinion would influence some kid to become a thug/hitman/gangster a HELL of a lot more than this show to make a deranged killer kid). Lastly, Izumo, YES IT WILL KILL ME NOT TO SEE THE NEXT EPISODE LIKE USUAL!!! I HAVE TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS!!! (judging from your signature, I don't suppose you read japanator?) I seriously am losing sleep over this....yurusenai!!!! (wow....I don't think I've ever gotten this hyped up on a thread here before....) And I heard about the incident with School Days too....and wasn't that the last episode supposedly?
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on 2007-09-22 13:41:00 (edited 2007-09-22 13:42:10)
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I fully understand how you feel h4x0r dud3-san i really want to know what happened in the last episode of School Days as well. All i was saying is understand WHY the series were pulled off air for the time being...it's not permanant. If you (or anybody) else can't be patient, you have to give your head a shake. Give a little respect to what happened over there rather than just think all about yourself. Besides it was the TV networks that decided to pull the episodes....they weren't asked to do it.....it was their own decision. I already know that Higurashi & School Days were late night shows but like i said it was all just precaution to avoid any possibility of public backlash. I said it in the School Days thread....i think it's the right decision to postpone the episodes rather than the possibility of not seeing them at all. What if they did air the next episode...& some people (you know there are some of them out there) complain....which may lead the networks to permanately pull the series from air. Then you'll never be able to see any more.....of course this is all hypothedical but it could happen. Yes...i know there are far worst situation than what happening every single day...i do watch CNN. Still i'll give you this comparison which i read in another forum while reading about what happened. The person basically said that when 9/11 happened you wouldn't want to air a show like 24 during that time would you? I know the murder is no where near as serious as 9/11...but the point is try to be in the shoes of the TV networks. Do i think that shows like School Days & Higurashi are series to get worked out about...absolutely not. Most people know the difference between reality & make-belief. However there ARE alot of those who think it's cool to imitate what happens in TV/movies. Mostly they are individuals with poor self-esteem, people who are bullied or have mental instabilities. Besides the authorities in Kyoto have yet to state that either show have a connection to the murder. In fact the girl said in custody the reason she did it was the she hated her father. I quote "I KILLED HIM, I HATED HIM". This was an act of personal influence rather being influenced by some anime. I still don't fully agree with some of the things you say....it is your opinion....but i'm a little disappointed that you aren't able to wait a few days/weeks...whenever they decide to air the shows again. I could say something about that...but i'll refrain myself from doing so...... *Yes i do know some japanese....* |